Friday, August 24, 2018

The guys problem

Joe Pinsker writes about the problem with — and without — the word guys:

The problem, for those who want to ditch guys, is that their language doesn’t present them with many versatile replacements; English lacks a standard gender-neutral second-person plural pronoun, like the Spanish ustedes or the German ihr. The alternatives to guys tend to have downsides of their own. Folks — inclusive and warm, but a little affected and forced. Friends — fine in social contexts, strange at work. People — too often pushy and impersonal. Team — its sense of camaraderie wears out with constant use. One might cobble together a mix of pronouns to deploy in different scenarios, but no one term can do it all.
When I was teaching, I defaulted to colleagues and students. In e-mail, for instance: “Hello EN3703 students.”

As for a standard gender-neutral second-person plural pronoun, there certainly was one when I was a kid in Brooklyn: youse.

5 comments:

  1. Or, in Pittsburghese, “yinz.”

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  2. I’d like to hear that word someday.

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  3. "Guys" is one of Liz's pet peeves when we're served in a restaurant. I suppose "everyone" could be used ("How is everyone?") but it sounds starchy and forced.

    Of course, since we live in the South, "you all" or "y'all" is what we-all say.

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  4. “Guys” is in the comic strip Dustin today, but it goes unremarked, because the topic under discussion is “working on” restaurant meals.

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  5. Oops — I was going from memory. It’s “folks” in today’s strip.

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